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Posted on: 02.03.10 at 06:02 PM
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Posted on: 05.03.10 at 11:28 AM
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some guys are realy big jerks | |
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Posted on: 06.03.10 at 02:16 AM
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instead of spaming maybe u should go play your little dick after that u will be peacefull lol | |
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Posted on: 06.03.10 at 04:50 AM
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I'm still new to the whole SL thing. I have deveral pics up but as for the amount of lindens I recieve versus the amount that I pay out is miniscual. For that matter i have found most of the places thru Midnight Madness groups. Does that mean Midnight Madness and Slap n Dash systems are going down next? | |
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Posted on: 25.03.10 at 02:12 AM
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It can't be about the increase in traffic to these sites. I go to sites and find 20-30 bots in a little sky box above the land, or the same amount in the water spread around the sim. There is no way to stop phony traffic count, and getting rid of PPRS sure won't do it, but will hurt the business that have PPRS. | |
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Posted on: 15.04.10 at 10:10 AM
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Yeah, and they don't even find the freaking bots themselvs! It's hilarious they can take an action on this product but worse things such as bots, aren't removed or even found unless WE residents find them and report - of course, only the ones that are informed about this rule good enough to do so. This is definitely ridiculous! Here, once again, LL being selfish and trying to screw up people's business. They can't even think about something important: A free basic account such as me for example, that has been growing a store for 2 years and half, thinks of one day becoming premium if the store gets successfull enough. Now, we have a system here that is as realistic as it can be: In RL, don't you pay people to spread around flyers around the streets? This is basicly the same! Even more smaller business that needs to grow up more to actually take more professional actions such as paying TV commercials? No one can start building an house by making a roof... you start from the bottom!! Now if i can't find "smaller" ways to grow up my business enough to be able to one day pay for Classifieds, how is that?! (and i already pay for classifieds still, but its a small amount cause i can't afford more yet..) I have been thinking for around an year, that if my business grows and i get finally more rewards from my 2 years and half working so hard on it, i would become PREMIUM.... But lately, i've seen so many actions from Linden Lab that only show them being SELFISH and screwing up the residents business, that its taking my will to become premium completely DOWN. I'm not gonna start paying someone that only thinks of themselvs, i already pay daily more than 100L$ only to upload textures or animations!! When i joined Second Life, i thought i read something that said it was a 3D world that WE residents create ourselvs... Now it says "largest USER-CREATED, 3D virtual world community" By LL latest actions and by this sentence, what do you guys want LL? Afterall what you wanted was US to create this world to make it grow so now you can take everything back and and profit is all for you? LOL... Last words: All creatos in SL, should take two sides: the creator side, and the client side. If you don't know what the client needs and wants, you as creator won't do a good job. This is what LL don't have, they only look at themselvs... By Someone that just bought this system and has been on SL constantly for 3 years seeing so many unfair things happening from LL. | |
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Posted on: 24.05.10 at 04:21 PM
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TODAY i sent this Email to LL: Dear Liana, you remember our email conversation a while ago regarding my PPRS system. Back then you relied to me: "I can say that once the policy is announced, you, and all other such merchants, will be given at least a month and possibly longer to reach compliance." In contrast to this, the SL Wiki states something else for a few days now. My customers are quite confused by the new information. Can you please shed some light on it, and wether your above statement still holds true? Thanks, Dackedidi Miles | |
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Posted on: 17.06.10 at 06:54 PM
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I've just discovered this thread and was wondering if there were any status updates on this. I am in SL for one reason and one reason only - to have fun. I don't mind paying a reasonable amount for the pleasure SL gives me and have no objection whatsoever in people who produce the "vitual things" that I use in SL to make a reasonable profit for it. Banning any kind of advertising that is not "in your face" seems somewhat Draconian to say the least. If the problem is overloaded servers, then surely that is LL's problem and only they can deal with it - perhaps they are a victim of their own success. If the problem is skewed visitor statistics, I think that has been answered very nicely by others on this thread - stop using "traffic" as the main search criterior to get to the top of the search rankings and, instead, make SL search more related to what is actually being searched for. Most content providers and merchants work very hard to make the things they sell and deserve a level playing field with others who may not have the quality but, instead, rely on their "traffic" figures to push them to the top of the seach list. PPRS, as I see it, gives that level playing field and, in the process, gives people an opportunity to get paid for promoting SL businesses and content providers. I must say, though, that I "own" land on SL and really enjoy building here but have never wanted to make any money from it. To those who do want to make money, I wish you luck but fear that the number of imposed rules and regulations that LL is imposing is making it more difficult. I even left SL for a while and went to other Virtual Worlds but found that most are even less stable than SL. The ones who are comparable/better are almost empty of people or have even more stringient rules. I agree with the original poster that we should work with LL to ensure that they are aware of what we, their customers and SL residents, want and more importantly what we DON'T want. John (Concerned Observer) | |
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Posted on: 08.07.10 at 10:55 AM
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Don't take away the profile pick reward system
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I posted a compliant to the linden lab issues please feel free to vote it in if enough ppl complian they will have to keep this!!!!
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-4387
this I a formal complaint about you removing the nice reward system people have built based on profile picks. I basical allows people who own small stores to pay others for advertising there place. this allows some people to get a small income for advertisment spots in their profile pick list. It has helped me get material and supplies that I would have been unable to purchase since my current rules I am under doesn't allow me to spend even a dollar of real money in the virtuil world. this has allowed me to generate displays that have shown about 100 people inperson and 1000s of other what is possible in second life. please do not break down this system you will not only be hurting yourself but the people that both use it as the only advertising tool current effectivly possible in world and the people that use it a their in world income. | |
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Posted on: 10.07.10 at 06:40 AM
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I posted on the issue on the jira. I am quite pissed off about this.. my business is gone, my enjoyment is gone, why am i even logging on? | |
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Posted on: 10.07.10 at 06:44 AM
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chaarltonheston Newbie |
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Mr Miles, What do you have in the pipeline to replace PPRS? First camping was banned, we overcome that with pprs, what could you come up with to take the place of pprs? There must be a way to keep money circulating... PPRS did that. It made my business profitable. Have any ideas? Nature abhors a vacuum... There must be a way to have something like pprs that could pay people/attract business... help us! You may be SL's only hope for survival. I am serious. | |
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Posted on: 12.07.10 at 11:40 AM
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sorry for heard the bad news of PPRS is death,if LL does not prefered to bring more benifits for residents instead of prefered to lower traffic....good,we will definitely not to login to SL again,are you LL happy now?no PPRS no fun!!! | |
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Posted on: 12.07.10 at 11:44 AM
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I am a premium acct too,now bye bye SL,again,no PPRS no fun | |
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Posted on: 16.07.10 at 12:36 AM
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A Linden Lab não tem o menor respeito aos usuários, empreendedores em geral! O Second Life é um jogo onde não há mais perspectiva de crescimento sem sermos designados pelo arbítrio da própria Linden Lab! Impor regras onde não há a menor chance de opnião por parte dos usuários mostra o quanto a empresa monopoliza o jogo à seu bel prazer! Indginação total com essa titude! | |
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Posted on: 16.07.10 at 12:37 AM
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Linden Lab does not have the slightest respect for users, developers in general! Second Life is a game where there's growth prospects without being appointed by the agency's own Linden Lab! Enforce rules where there is a chance of opinion among users shows how much the company monopolizes the game to his pleasure! Total outrage with that attitude! | |
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Posted on: 24.07.10 at 10:37 AM
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LindenLab - kapitalistische Diktatur Bis heute hat LindenLab mit SecondLife die Regeln der freien Marktwirtschaft nicht verstanden. Wieder einmal versucht LindenLab seinen Geschäftstätigen Bewohnern ein weiteres Marketinginstrument zu zerstören. Das ganze wird unter dem Vorwand, die suche zu optimieren durchgeführt. Zuerst wurde das Campen untersagt, nun werden die Profil Pick Einträge nutzlos. Bis heute hat Lindenlab die Grundregeln nicht verstanden, das eine Wirtschaft, auch wenn diese nur virtuell ist, auf den einfachsten regeln besteht. Vergleichen wir LindenLab mit einem Staat. Kein Staat der etwas von Wirtschaft versteht würde zulassen, das seine Steuerzahler der Existenzboden entzogen würde. Die Basis, das LindenLab überhaupt Geld verdienen kann beruht auf dem Grundsatz das es ausreichend User gibt die Land kaufen oder auch nutzen und dafür regelmäßig Miete zahlen ( Tier , Steuer ). Entzieht man der Basis die Einkommensgrundlage, so hat die unweigerlich zur Folge, das bald einige User ihr Business aufgeben. Auch eine virtuelle Welt lebt von der Basis des Handelns. Das beste Beispiel für den umgekehrten Fall sind die Open Grids. Da dort fast kein Handel in für die Betreiber gewinnbringender Höhe möglich ist, bleiben hochkarätige Designer, Scripter oder Builder diesen Grids meistens fern. Es ist doch ein Irrglauben das Menschen knapp 300 USD für eine SIM jeden Monat bezahlen und nicht die Absicht haben damit Gewinn zu erwirtschaften. Wird dies allerdings durch den Betreiber LindenLab immer wieder erschwert, so ist es nur eine Frage der Zeit bis es zum Rückzug einiger wichtiger Träger dieser Wirtschaft kommt. Der Punkt ist dann erreicht, wenn der Aufwand zur Erzielung der Umsätze ins unermessliche geht. Wenn die Relation Zeit und Gewinn nicht mehr funktioniert. Mit dem immer wieder neuen Manipulationen an der SecondLife suche sind wir nun kurz vor diesem Punkt angelangt. Wenn Lindenlab immer mehr versucht, mögliche Geschäfte sich selbst anzueignen, so entzieht LindenLab seiner Basis die Wirtschaftlichkeit. Es ist doch absurd, das LindenLab davon ausgeht, das die User dies ohne weiteres akzeptieren und dann schön brav lieber anzeigen schalten. Nur mal als Beispiel an den Profil PICK Schildern möchte ich kurz erklären warum dieser schritt auf lange Sicht in der Tat gravierende Auswirkungen hat. Wenn ein Betreiber ein Profil PICK Schild aufstellt und einige User dadurch regelmäßig Geld erhalten fördert man auch das Interesse der neuen User in Second Life. Es ist ein Trugschluss, wenn Lindenlab denkt, das wenn die User kein Geld mehr auf diese weise erhalten jeder User dann L$ einkauft. eher werden die Leute die Lust verlieren, die Fluktuation wird sich erhöhen. Neue User wollen langsam in das Spiel eingeführt werden. Dazu gehört auch das die Leuten der Zugang zu Geld erleichtert wird. Durch die Profil Pick Schilder ist dies der Fall. Für den Händler hat dies den Vorteil, in erster Linie in der Suche etwas besser platziert zu sein und eventuell auch für später dein ein oder anderen Nutzer wieder als Kunden begrüßen zu dürfen. Der Händler hat somit als Gegenleistung für den sozialen Dienst der Geldbeschaffung für neue Nutzer eine Besserstellung in der Suche. Das ist ein legitimes Marketinginstrument einer funktionierenden Wirtschaft. durch den Wegfall der Profil Pick Schilder versiegt eine massive Quelle für die ersten L$ von neuen Nutzern. Das Ranking der Shopbetreiber sinkt, die Umsätze sinken, die folgen sind fatal. Es kann nicht sein das Lindenlab wirklich der Meinung ist, das die suche nur für schöne Plätze sinnvoll sein kann. Ein kapitalistisches unternehmen mit solchen Ansichten ??? Viel mehr wohl scheint es, das LindenLab versucht bei den Geschäftstätigen Nutzern andere Maßstäbe zu setzen als sich der Betreiber selbst herausnimmt. Getreu nach dem Motto, ich will verdienen und den größten teil des Kuchens abbekommen. Bei den anderen reicht es das sie so viel verdienen damit sie ihre Grundstücke bezahlen können. Gewinn erzielen brauchen die Nutzer nicht, es reicht wenn LindenLab ausreichend verdient. Diese Rechnung geht nicht auf. | |
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